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What is 13th stepping?

Posted by Sober Tony on March 27, 2017 3 Comments

That’s me and my latest fling. I’m fairly certain she’s not going to crash my recovery.

Anyway, I’m new here…

I’m still catching up on the lingo in the recovery community. Here’s the latest phrase that had me confused.

13th stepping

At first I was excited. Maybe they added a 13th step to AA for overachievers – something like extra credit.

Except it turned out to be something different. Here’s what I found for a 13th step definition via the Urban Dictionary:

Needless to say, this is considered unhealthy by the AA community and generally harmful to the newcomers sobriety.

  • In many situations it’s exploitive. There is even a documentary exposing harm of 13th stepping in AA.

Personally, I have enough relationship drama from before recovery. I’m not ready to step into anything new.

Some more reading about 13th stepping:

You can read one woman’s personal story and why she stopped.

The real amends I owe is to AA itself. When I “worked the 13th step,” I was using the program as a seduction tool and the rooms as an alcohol-free singles bar. I was manipulative, self-seeking and dishonest. I made a safe place unsafe, and I set a bad example of sober womanhood.

There’s another good discussion of the 13th step on this rehab forum.

I am in my early 50’s and have been amazed at the number of people who have hit on me since I walked into the rooms. Although I am not one, I have been old enough to be a “Grandma”.  I have had a partner with me most of the time and it hasn’t stopped people from approaching me when I am not sitting or standing near him. If they have done it to me, I wonder how much more they do it to younger women and ones who are by themselves.

Rehaps.com writes how only AA members can stop this behavior

An individual who preys upon new vulnerable members is hindering and actively harming other members. Those who condone or remain passive when aware of thirteenth stepping are also abdicating our responsibilities to help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.

The Fix blog has an article about this problem too.

Once I stopped focusing on the guys and started focusing on the steps and being in AA, everything changed,” she says. “I got sober. And I stopped dating sleazebags.

Alcohol rehab blog lists some suggestions about what to do in this situation

Flirting is normal behavior in these groups. It is usually harmless, but it is important to look out for how the other person is reacting – some may take innocent flirtations to meaning something else. . .  If the flirtatious behavior of another individual is making a new member feel uncomfortable it is a good idea to speak to their sponsor about it. This more experienced person should be able to offer advice on how to deal with the situation.

What about you? Have you seen this happen firsthand in your recovery groups? Leave a comment below to share your experience.

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About Sober Tony

Tony is the founder and editor of Daily Recovery Club. He is a widely respected authority (in his own mind).

This blog is not professional or medical advice, rather a support community for others suffering from alcoholism. We are all experts on failure, starting over, and trying to laugh at the absurdity of it all. Find him on Twitter @soberTony

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  1. Bryan says

    March 27, 2017 at 8:49 am

    When I was younger , I attended some . Got to know a few people. Long story short I did see quite a few things. I saw a couple there , in which later they got busted for the male prostituting out his wife for drugs for them both even though they regularly attended and celebrated recovery. Another guy , was “2 years” sober. I got him a job with me doing construction. I met him at his house where he took 4 shots of jack Daniels before heading to work and that evening drank with my boss . I never told on him because I thought maybe AA was still helping him. I wasn’t around long enough to hear about the 13th step , but did see a lot of dishonesty. Everywhere you go there will be things like that . Interesting to hear about this! Day 25 here! Woohoo!

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  2. Sober Tony says

    March 30, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    Congratulations on day 25. I guess with any group of people there are going to be problems. Just a reminder that addiciton is the real enemy.

    Stay strong brother!

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  3. Melanie says

    March 4, 2021 at 9:42 am

    I am 18 days sober and I was flirted with and then went over to this person house totally intending to read the big book as I felt comfortable with him. We did read them after that I was 13 stepped he had 2 yrs. we decided we should stop but part of my addiction was sex and booze so I sent him sexy pics of me saw him again. Then I realized that’s all he wanted so I stopped talking to him I said it is not good for my recovery

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